Question:
Why didn't the big bang make a black hole?
metaphysics1221
2006-04-08 18:40:33 UTC
If the universe was super-dense in the seconds after the big bang, why didn't it form a black hole? If it had, the mass that is now the universe would have been unable to escape, as a black hole can overcome even light.
21 answers:
lucetios
2006-04-18 21:13:14 UTC
The theory of "big bang" is a consequence of general relativity and Reimannian space where the space and time are related and ependent on each other. In order to have a black hole, you need a certain amount of mass per space volume. The main word here is "per", the ratio! In big bang you have a lot of mass but you also have a lot of space. The entire universe was also shrunk to that spot. So the ratio was not as large as it seems first. The is the reason why universe did not become one giant black hole.



As to your question regarding the relationship between God and the theory of big bang, one does not disprove the other. Whether there was a big bang or not has no baring as to Who created it.
cashflow_2000
2006-04-19 14:54:09 UTC
If the Big Bang theory is in fact true where did it originate? (I know don’t answer a question with another question.)

Now at the center of our galaxy (the Milky Way) there is an unusual grouping, cluster or cloud…unknown. Some learned people have said that the area may be a black hole.

Considering that we know so little about black holes, maybe the big bang (which is just a theory) was the result of a giant black hole.

It is said that eventually all matter in the universe will start to return, start moving towards its center. Will it just go over and over again?

Following this discussion, what is on the other side of a black hole? Is there another side? Logically it would have to be a dot, but unless it is a hole in space (which it could be) the matter that it consumes will some day have to be expelled?

I know this is all philosophical, but I would sure like to hear form you on this. Everything on the subject at this level is merely supposition…but it is interesting.
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2016-10-16 03:34:32 UTC
the vast Bang and Black Holes are very dissimilar issues. The Friedmann answer for the equations of many times used Relativity, that are the governing answer for the vast Bang, have a uniform density everywhere. The Schwarzschild answer for the equations of many times used relativity, that are the governing answer for Black Holes, have a vacuum everywhere yet at a single factor interior the middle. So, there is no effortless thank you to tutor Black Holes into vast Bangs or vice versa, and there is no at the instant manageable thought of cosmology that exhibits this variety of factor. the vast Bang in all likelihood did no longer requre any "stuff" to blow up. the finished potential of the Universe is in all likelihood to be 0, with the advantageous potential cancelled by using unfavourable gravitational capacity potential. Black Holes, on the different hand, continually have advantageous potential. there is little question that Black Holes exist---the observations of the binary pulsar are accurately consistent with Einstein's equations interior the shrink of sturdy gravity; this observational confirmation makes it exceedingly no longer likely that the equations for Black Holes are incorrect.
goring
2006-04-08 20:24:40 UTC
Who said it didnot. If there was a big bang. note the universe is a big black hole . You look at the sky its black with a few white bright holes. Most likely the formation of the Universe may have been a group of small wirlpool of mass structuring processes. A much different concept of the Big Bang. This is just as valid concept we can just as mathematicdlly be shown similaly in terms of tensors.And a equation of field.Their guess is as good as anyone else!

they talk of a singularity ,but there may have been trillions of singularities all working in twisting manner forming masses out of their surroundings.



You can play with mathermatic and make logical deduction out of it. But may not really represent how creation occurred .



If gravity exists than the universe tends to Unite masses toghether toward a comon center.Now this center continually moves to to the fulcrum which would balance all moving masses in the Universe in an equilibrium stable state. so all orbit and masses hold their shape.
nesjumpman
2006-04-08 18:48:42 UTC
Ignore all the religious rhetoric. The reasons for the sudden explosions are not necessarily known, but "Big Bang" only refers to the sudden and rapid expansion of the universe - not that it was an infinitely dense mass to begin with. There are some theories that the universe collapsed, nearly collapsed on itself, and the near miss created the swirling effects seen in many galaxies.



Steven Hawking has books on the history of the universe: "A Brief History of Time" and "A Briefer History of Time" to name a few. They are not as intimidating as one might think coming from one of the greatest scientific minds of quite possibly all time.
Pearlsawme
2006-04-19 19:13:07 UTC
A black hole is dense. Does it mean all dense objects are black holes?



You have stated that if the pre-big universe was dense and it was a black hole.



As a matter of fact, I don’t know what big bang is, and what a black hole is.



I read your statements about big bang and black hole and find a fallacy in it.



A black hole is dense does not convey that all dense objects must be black holes.
daedalus
2006-04-16 23:55:33 UTC
the universe may actually be viewed as the inside of a black hole. a black hole is an object from which not even light can escape. however, the universe is the totality of all objects; therefore, nothing can leave the universe. this means that not even light can leave the universe. by this definition, the universe is a black hole (albeit one of enormous size and extremely low density).
thebome73@sbcglobal.net
2006-04-08 18:45:23 UTC
Listen buddy, scientists barely know what the big bang was, it is just a vary sketchy theory as to how the universe was created. Plus, the titanium on my Cleveland Launcher 460 golf club is extremely dense yet it doesn't create a blck hole/
iceni
2006-04-20 18:49:27 UTC
Inverse energy from a Higgs vector field (or inflation field)caused the mass to push apart. Suggest reading The Inflationary Universe by Alan Guth
johnblessed01
2006-04-20 03:05:33 UTC
Because the Big Bang was a BIG DUD PLEASE READ:



Okay, now sit down now, boys and girls - it's story time! Shhhh.... Once upon a time, billions of years ago, there was nothing. Suddenly, magically, the nothing exploded into something. That something is called hydrogen. Can you say "hydrogen?" I knew you could. This hydrogen eventually cooled down enough to condense into solid rock. It was magic rock. Inert and lifeless, but still magical. And then, magically, water formed in the sky above the rock. The waters rained on the rock for, oh, let's say billions of years. Some of the rock broke down into minerals, and these minerals washed into a pool of water.



Then one day some of these minerals magically formed into a kind of goo in the pool of water. Can you say "goo?" I knew you could. Well do you know what happened then? That's right! The goo magically became ALIVE. So anyway, this bit of magic goo magically found something to eat. Then, magically, it found another bit of magic goo to marry, and they had a whole bunch of magical little goos. Eventually - millions of years later - some of this goo grew up into all the plants and animals in the world around us. If it's alive, it came from that first bit of magic goo! Well, more time went on. Finally some of this goo magically evolved - can you say "evolved?" I knew you could - some of this goo magically evolved upwards and upwards, growing ever more advanced, bigger, stronger, smarter, until it became a kind of magical hairless ape with thumbs.



And do you know who those apes are? That's right! They're YOU and ME! We are the magic rock apes! And you know what else? Someday we'll evolve enough that we'll become the God we all know doesn't exist. Now take a nap.





YOU CANT PROVE ANY OF THIS EVER HAPPENED



ITS NOT SCIENTIFIC; you cant TEST it, OBSERVE it, its not DEMONSTRATABLE, you cant use the SCIENTIFIC METHOD TO PROVE IT, ITS NOT SCIENCE...



thank you,
sonyack
2006-04-08 18:44:48 UTC
Because the force of the bang was greater than the force required to form a black hole.
Pochocho
2006-04-08 18:50:06 UTC
God!, why do people talk about things they don't know (sorry buddy for not answering either) but, look at the 1 answer and the answers that quote it, gezus!

by the way, I assume you've read something about Hawkin's radiation, OK, while it doesn't relate directly as an answer to your question, it may lead you somewhere to you include it in your reasoning (if you haven't already, I made myself a similar question once)
2006-04-08 18:47:44 UTC
mabey its density contributed to it not being a black hole.

Also mabey it wasnt because of there being nothing around it.



But lets say it was a black hole so dense that after becoming denser it exploded? creating the universe
amosunknown
2006-04-08 18:44:12 UTC
i agree with the first gal.



although, since no one has ever been in a black hole, maybe we are in one and havent realized it. perhaps when we see things we think are other black holes we are simply seeing more of the same.



maybe theres no real answers to any of our questions about space except to go and see it ourselves.
2006-04-19 08:07:04 UTC
i am quite confused ya the universe was formed by bursting of nebula and i think that nebula wasnt a black hole
2006-04-12 15:23:05 UTC
It is ridiculous to say that it didnt happen. It is the theory with the most evidence, unlike the bible which is based in books from thousands of years ago which we have NO evidence for.
JustMe
2006-04-08 18:41:33 UTC
Because God created the earth and universe. He designed it perfectly.
mandoenjoy
2006-04-08 18:44:48 UTC
because there wasn't one

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
2006-04-08 18:43:25 UTC
Whoever proved there was a big bang?
3beed
2006-04-08 18:45:26 UTC
Who said it didn't? And btw, god is a god d.am son of a ******, and he doesn't exist.
2006-04-08 18:44:59 UTC
Because, I said for it not to happen.


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