Question:
Joule to newton?
zizix
2014-07-28 14:55:50 UTC
A joule is "equal to the energy expended in applying a force of one newton through a distance of one metre."

Yet a newton is "the amount needed to accelerate 1 kilogram of mass at the rate of 1 meter per second squared".

I now understand the newton with the increase in velocity per second, but that the joule is defined as the newton through a distance of one meter seems confusing as this adds an additional meter onto the overall definition.

Is it simply worded wrong or how is this explained?
Four answers:
oldprof
2014-07-28 15:16:16 UTC
Think of the work function work energy = force over some distance; Q = FS in math talk.



You know F = MA, which is kg.m/s^2 in mks units.

So Q = FS = MAS, which is (kg.m/s)^2 in the same mks units.



By arcane definition Newton ~ kg.m/s^2 and

Joule ~ kg.(m/s)^2



And there you are Joule ~ kg.m.m/s^2 ~ Newton.m



The issue is in using those arcane units Joule and Newton, which carry no useful information, when the standard mks units suffice and tell us some physics as well.
Name Deleted
2014-07-28 15:07:13 UTC
Joules and Newtons are different types of units. A Joule is a measure of energy, while a Newton is a measure of force.



Think of it like this: Newtons measure the same things pounds do. If you have a weight that weighs 1 Newton on earth, this would be the equivalent of 0.2248 pounds. It would have a mass of around 102 grams - or 0.102 kilograms. That is to say, the force of gravity is pulling the weight down to the earth with a force of 1 Newton. Using the formula F = m * a, 1 N = 0.102 kg * a, you would find that the acceleration of the weight is around 9.8 m/s^2 (read it as 9.8 meters per second, each second).



If this weight is on the ground and you lift it up 1 meter high, you are exerting a force over a certain distance; you have spent 1 Joule of energy (or rather, you have increased the potential energy of the weight by one Joule).



So in summary, those definitions are correct, but a bit difficult at times to visualize.
Steve4Physics
2014-07-28 15:04:21 UTC
It is correct.



You can think in terms of energy (work) or acceleration - they are equivalent and give the same answer.

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Imagine you exert 1N force on a 1kg mass, pushing it through a distance of 1m.



The work done on the object is W = Fd = 1N x 1m = 1Nm = 1J.



If there is no friction, this means the kinetic energy given to the object = 1J



KE = ½mv²

1 = ½ x 1 x v²

v = √2 = 1.414m/s

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The acceleration is a = F/m = 1N/1kg = 1m/s²



The velocity after 1m is given by:

v² = u² + 2as

= 0² + 2x1x1

= 2

v = √2 = 1.414m/s



So whether we do the calculation in term of energy or acceleration we get exactly the same result.
Charles
2014-07-28 15:00:56 UTC
A Joule is a unit of energy. A Newton is a unit of force.


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