Question:
I don't understand Schrodinger's Cat?
Em
2012-06-20 13:35:52 UTC
I don't but I do understand it if you know what I mean. It confuses me! Especially the part where the cat is considered both dead or alive? But wouldn't the cat be dead? Since the poison was supposed to kill it? Can someone please explain this to me?
Thanks in advance! :)
Oh, and sorry if I made any mistakes explaining it.
Four answers:
OldPilot
2012-06-20 13:43:45 UTC
Schrodinger disagreed with the Copenhagen INTERPRETATION of Quantum Mechanics. Until we we observe the result of a quantum event, all possible states exist. There are 2 possible states for the cat, dead or alive and until we look, the cat exists as a fog that is both dead and alive.





Schrodinger Cat (in his own words)

"One can even set up quite ridiculous cases. A cat is penned up in a steel chamber, along with the following diabolical device (which must be secured against direct interference by the cat): in a Geiger counter there is a tiny bit of radioactive substance, so small that perhaps in the course of one hour one of the atoms decays, but also, with equal probability, perhaps none; if it happens, the counter tube discharges and through a relay releases a hammer which shatters a small flask of hydrocyanic acid. If one has left this entire system to itself for an hour, one would say that the cat still lives if meanwhile no atom has decayed. The first atomic decay would have poisoned it. The Psi function for the entire system would express this by having in it the living and the dead cat (pardon the expression) mixed or smeared out in equal parts. It is typical of these cases that an indeterminacy originally restricted to the atomic domain becomes transformed into macroscopic indeterminacy, which can then be resolved by direct observation. That prevents us from so naively accepting as valid a "blurred model" for representing reality. In itself it would not embody anything unclear or contradictory. There is a difference between a shaky or out-of-focus photograph and a snapshot of clouds and fog banks." -- Erwin Schrodinger



"Basically what Schrodinger is saying is that because of the way the experiment is set up, the cat has a 50% chance of being alive, and a 50% chance of being dead. It is just as likely that the cat is alive as that it is dead, so Schrodinger said that until the box is opened, the cat is both alive and dead (according to Copenhagen). This is obviously is false, the cat cannot be both alive and dead at the same time. This problem is meant to illustrate a theory of quantum mechanics called "indeterminacy." Indeterminacy says that there can be more than one correct answer to a problem which physically can only have one answer. Schrodinger came up with this illustration to demonstrate that there was a problem with this theory of quantum mechanics. "



What happens to the cat is widely debated. Since the issue cannot be resolved without violating Indeterminacy, we will probably never know. There are 3 general positions on what happens.



1. The cat is a macro entity. As such QM does not apply. ===> The cat is either alive OR dead. (Schrodinger’s position) We find out when we look.



2. The Copenhagen Interpretation of QM applies. ==> The cat is both alive and dead at the same time. The cat’s Psi function collapses to alive or dead when we look.



3. Many Universe Interpretation of QM applies. ==> There are 2 universes. In one universe the cat is alive. In the other universe the cat is dead. We find out which universe we live in when we look.



OPINION: The whole issue is moot. The Geiger counter and cat’s body are observers that collapse the PSI Function for the system. We don’t know what happened, but the Geiger counter (If decay occurred, the Geiger counter took action to kill the cat.) and cat body do know (The cat died). The system is never “Indeterminate.”
Liz
2012-06-20 20:38:13 UTC
There's poison in the box that should kill it--but not all things that should happen do.



But you haven't opened the box to see whether it is dead or alive yet.



Not knowing the results allows the cat to be both dead or alive.



I tried to make that simpler than the original tale. I hope that helps you.
wayfaroutthere
2012-06-20 20:46:04 UTC
I don't think Schrodinger could really explain it, maybe ask Heisenberg. It looks to me like someone is trying to take mathematical concepts of probability that work well with large numbers and apply them to small numbers.



If I'm playing hold 'em, and after the flop I see that my opponent has a pair, while I have an outside straight draw, a flush draw, and two overcards, the chances are in my favor of winning. If I push all in and the opponent folds, I have it--we didn't open the box. If I push all in and my opponent calls with his pair, I'll win more than six times out of ten. But if he calls, we open the box and my odds don't matter--are the cards I need there or not?
Axle
2012-06-20 20:41:14 UTC
the cat can be both alive and dead.



it all depends on ur knowledge. if u kno the cat to be dead its dead otherwise not.



u cannot be sure of something if u dont kno it fully.


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